Seeds Characters: Lenna

2006-08-28 [Fizban]: Woah, this page is seriously disorganized in appearance...lol.

2006-08-28 [Fizban]: Also, have you read the part about having to write a post as though you were in a bar?

write a post of you, not any character really, just a person, walking into a bar.

2006-08-28 [Estantia]: That makes no sense... as if walking into a bar?

In which case I will edit it, the city wouldn't know, but would her designs be attributed to another person within the facility?

2006-08-28 [Estantia]: and she may not neccessarily be taught, just draw buildings and things to put in them I'm guessing all of her art would be analysed?

2006-08-28 [Fizban]: She would have a phychiatrist that may look at her art to analyze her.

But since the teaching levels I am guessing are substandard due to the lack of even a requirement to teach the seeds...I don't even know if there will be an art instructor who could notice that your art isnt just beatiful, but amazingly skilled as well.

I mean in the real world outside the institute, you would get noticed, and have all these things, but inside your sheltered and so is your work.

I am sure if the other person were the artists the art community would want to meet him as well if your art is this amazing. That does present a problem,...because it brings strange attention to the lab that it wouldn't have had before.

The artists community, and anyoen else who payed attention, would all try to get the lab to release the artist who made the amazing art,...hmmmms.

2006-08-28 [Fizban]: the bar thing...its just to test you. So we have an example of your writing and can judge it.

Sorry, I know we all roleplayed with you already, but if we said you didn't have to do it, it would look bad and others would want to skip it as well.

if others show up...

2006-08-28 [Estantia]: of course, I see what you mean, what I was thinking is to give someone else the glory and use them as a puppet, so they see the artist.. maybe if it wasn't amazing enough to attract too much attention? Just good rather than brilliant, but good enough to fetch a profit and some building designs to be made.

Where do you want the bar thing sent to?

2006-08-28 [Fizban]: Well in reality, you probably wouldnt end up using them...

I would see, that you would be the puppet.

Someone else stealing your art work adn then selling it as though it was there own. Taking all the credit for themselves.

Send it in a message to talkris I guess.

2006-08-28 [Estantia]: can you clarify what you just said? I'm afraid that thinking toay is a bit like thinking through mud for me...

2006-08-28 [Estantia]: The walking into a bar thing ended up getting a wiki page - Enter the liontaur, that ok?

2006-08-28 [Fizban]: oh dear lord, talkris will never want to read all of that...

The requirement was post...~post~ a paragraph maybe two at the most. Lol...wows. Well, your enthusiatic! lol, hahahaha.

2006-08-28 [Fizban]: And what I was saying about the puppet thing...I mean, you wouldnt be working using another person to take credit...

if anything, someone else would take your work, and then sell it as though he made it.

And since you have no rights, and your at the whims of others in the institute...it could easily happen.

2006-08-28 [Estantia]: that's what I meant... sorry if I wasn't clear. She isn't aware they're doing that, and she probably wouldn't mind either...

2006-08-28 [Estantia]: Heh ^_^' What can I say it grew! And it's a nice bit of character expansion.

2006-08-28 [Fizban]: character expansion? What char did you use, I haven't read it.

2006-08-28 [Estantia]: Sara, one I don't think you've met...

2006-08-28 [Fizban]: You character sheet has become exponentially better. The improvements are perfect, rational, and expected.

I love your character, I just have this image, and she is so cute XD.

Do you know who stole your jar? Lol...

Your char is definetly the most unique one I expect to see...here I go expecting no one to pick the 4th generation, and our first applicant does right off the bat.

[Talkris] unfortunately has become extremely busy as of late...and I don't know how much time she has to spend on ET, it all depends on her schedule.

However so far, all seems well.

^_^

2006-08-28 [Fizban]: Also can I ask you to delete the wiki page from that one comment and send it to talkris in a message?

I dont want anyone seeing anyone elses posts, because I fear that some may copy or retain hints from others posts, I dotn know if talkris is concerned with this, but its my first instinct...

2006-08-28 [Estantia]: well I have got rid of the link, but to be honest, I think you'd recognise it if any of my stuff comes up. I sent her the small version and the wiki-page link

Yup, I did that on purpose, Aeolus has an empty jar of pills with him :D and you know I go off the bat, my characters write themselves, and Lenna was persistant..

2006-08-28 [Fizban]: oh, I would love for your and my chars to bond over a jar, but its not a jar its a bottle.

like a little plastic bottle of aspirin you would find in your medicine cabinet...

only problem was that all the medicine was used up.

If I was to steal a jar from you he would probably break the jar as soon as he got to his room, and swallow the glass. >_><_< lol!

2006-08-28 [Estantia]: jar, bottle, same difference... and it would be empty, she was using it for water to wash her brushes in.

2006-08-28 [Fizban]: ooh...LOLS.

okay then, sure...I can see you getting a second hand bottle for that, its not like they would buy you real ones for artists there are definetly more then enough empty pill bottles to give you some floating around the institution. XD

2006-08-28 [Estantia]: exactly, and it's a nice size for watercolours too :P

2006-08-28 [Fizban]: tis funny.

Oys, we still need more people...:( 3 isn't good enough...4 I think would be I suppose...I hope...

2006-08-29 [Talkris]: I'm sorry. I still have not been able to fully look this over, only skimming. I may not get to it for a few days. Its my first week of school and I have work and everything is just a disaster right now.

2006-08-29 [Estantia]: I can imagine. Mine's next week...

2006-08-30 [Fizban]: as is mine...*ish scared*

2006-08-30 [Estantia]: don't be scared, I'm going to be slaughtered for not having done work.

2006-08-30 [Talkris]: Okay, I got up to the weight part today. Just put in (..) the Lb equivilant, as I am a moron and can't comprehend Kg. (thought that could be from the lack of sleep+stress)

2006-08-30 [Estantia]: I can't comprehend wieght in general... erm... *guesses*

2006-08-30 [Talkris]: Hahaha, it's okay. Jack will be a dear and look it up for us. *smiles sweetly in his direction*

2006-08-30 [Estantia]: nah, 10 stone is probably more accurate lol!

2006-08-30 [Fizban]: kg...oys...cant we just use pounds?

stones is way to hard we dont know how big or how much they weigh lols...

your what...18 or so?

how big are you?

2006-08-30 [Estantia]: I'm overweight, and it's 14 pounds to a stone I think

I'm 17, and I'm overweight, so Lenna... 10 stone would be about 140 pounds.

2006-08-30 [Fizban]: 14 pounds to a stone...>_>...where does this come from? Lol..??

lol...140 is about right for an 18 year old girl...I Guess lol.

2006-08-31 [Talkris]: No, it isn't. 120-130 lbs is normal.

2006-08-31 [Fizban]: she said she was over weight didnt she?

if not, then I would go with the resident girl here, who has been 18 before [Estantia], lol.

2006-08-31 [Talkris]: Heh

2006-08-31 [Estantia]: oops, in which case I'd say severely less, but it does depend on height.

ok, fancy making her lose 20 pounds overnight?

2006-08-31 [Estantia]: and I'm 17, same as Lenna...

2006-08-31 [Fizban]: I am confused now...do you want her over or under weight?

2006-08-31 [Estantia]: under, remember that she is a seed and they wouldn't give her that much food, only just enough.

2006-08-31 [Fizban]: >_>...alright lol...your very funny...they aren't going to supply her with candies and chocolates, however there a rich institute and your subjects...they aren't giving them less then the average amount of food...

I mean..they don't give them many playthings, but the definetly supply food for them...<_<

If her metabolism is slow, she will have more fat, plain and simple.

2006-08-31 [Estantia]: in which case I'd still say the lower side of normal weight, I just have no idea of what weight everyone should be without being told what's normal lol.

125 lb, everyone happy?

2006-08-31 [Fizban]: sounds good to me oys...loyl.

nosotros necessitamos mas hombres en esta wiki ahora!!!!!!!!!!! >_<

2006-08-31 [Estantia]: Si! Yo se! pero tenemos uno problema... Esta tiempo...

2006-08-31 [Fizban]: Si,...si...:/

tu tienes los amigos, y yo tengo los amigos, y ella tienes los amigos...pero, nosotros tenemos tres jugandos!!

fongoul!

donde son mas hombres!!

2006-08-31 [Estantia]: Quieres saber? En sus camas o con sus amigas, quiero hablar con mis amigos... :(

2006-09-01 [Fizban]: porque tu no hables con su amigos?

Yo hablo con mis, y ellos no quieren...:/

2006-09-01 [Estantia]: Quiero hablar con mis amigos porque no estan usar el internet en el momento. Pero me encantaría hablo con mis amigos a mi casa, o sus casas...

2006-09-01 [Fizban]: LOL!

no no no,...porque tienes los jugandos por esta wiki, cuando ellos no tienen el internet ahora!

Ellos no puedo jugar conmigo, y contigo, en there own casas...

2006-09-01 [Estantia]: "there own"? bad english AND spanish!!!

porque mis amigos no tengo un casa en elftown??

2006-09-01 [Talkris]: Okay, I found a comntradiction in her characteristics. You wrote that she will use written notes if prompted, but that she was never taught how to write. All of the children should be taught basic skills like that, since they are, in the long run, designed as weapons and will ultimately be used in war. Even the imperfect ones have to be taught these basic skills, lest they be deemed worthless and destroyed. True her generation was only kept for study, she still needs to have use and means of comunication. (sorry to interupt the sudden flow of language but I am too lazy top write in spanish and I doubt anyone would understand Japanese.)

2006-09-01 [Fizban]: I don't see why she cant learn sign language, its seems quite strange that she is very skilled with her hands in delicate operations that just randomly dont span to sign language just because...??

2006-09-01 [Estantia]: the sign language is just one of those things, you know how some people try something and it just ends up hopeless (like me drawing realism for example) some people just have random things they can't get the hang of.

2006-09-01 [Estantia]: ok, so she can read and write just doesn't like sign language then

2006-09-15 [Talkris]: Will you be providing a picture to go with your char sheet?

2006-09-15 [Estantia]: unlikely any time soon, i have too much work...

2006-09-15 [Talkris]: Understood. 'Twas just a curosity if you would draw one eventually.

2006-09-15 [Estantia]: evntually being close to never, yup...

2006-09-15 [Talkris]: Hmm... I'll see if I can manage to spare a few hours one night and do one for you if you don't get around to it. I like doing character pictures and I like seeing them with bios. It just puts everything together nicely.

2006-09-15 [Estantia]: yes, but it may end up not how I picture it.... mind you, you draw better ^_^'

2006-09-15 [Talkris]: Okay, started going through the profile, did the parts that are now in the proper format. Just glance that the tiny notes and reread the parts about the ears. You said brown spots in appearance and tinted brown in ears.

2006-09-18 [Fizban]: I wanna start this wiki,...I am in hyper rp and video game and yippsee do mode!!!!

2006-09-18 [Estantia]: i edited the bit about writing, and not being able to do sign language easily frustrating her.

2006-09-18 [Fizban]: okay...whatever you want. I didn't mean you were an obsticle to starting...I was just confused why you would spontaneously make a deaf person incommunicable because of a difficulty htey didn't want to work through...lol.

I just mean we need more people!

2006-09-18 [Estantia]: just because she understands and doesn't speak...

I copuld have another chary...

2006-09-19 [Fizban]: yes, you could...however that wont really solve the problem.

2006-09-19 [Estantia]: it's wasy to have an rp with three though, espec with 2 charys each

2006-09-19 [Fizban]: sorduv...but neither I or talkris think that three minds can attribute enough to this wiki. She also wants some people to naturally choose rebels, so we can have a good contrast between sides.

2006-09-19 [Estantia]: that's true..., but why can't people choose both?

and besides, I was planning for Lenna to help them from the inside as long as they helped the seeds.

2006-09-19 [Estantia]: I did explain the difference in treatment, the others are mostly designed to be used as weapons, correct? and so put in an environment suited to that, however they use Lenna in a different way, and so treat her differently. I also said that she hides the lopped ears by looping them together with a piercing around the back of her neck and the hair covers them, they're camouflaged with the spots too.

2006-09-19 [Talkris]: Even by hooking the ears together though, I think they would be hard to miss. Or at least notice that something was wrong.

As for the other thing, I misunderstood what you meant. So I withdraw my statement.

2006-09-19 [Estantia]: Not going into lab 1 is fine though, but would she be allowed to walk around lab 5 if she asked to go outside her room for a bit?

2006-09-19 [Talkris]: Yeah. she is stable and thus is allowed to roam around designated areas. I have to outline restricted areas though. BUt she would be allowed in the garden and such, as long as she has supervision.

2006-09-20 [Estantia]: Naturally, hm, how many scientists and people are in lab 5?

2006-09-20 [Talkris]: Not too many. Its a very under wraps thing. Officially, lab 5 does not even exist, so they would not have many people working there.

2006-09-20 [Estantia]: hm, she'd need her supervisor around then... at least at a distance.

2006-09-20 [Talkris]: Yup, her watcher would follow her. That is why each seed is given their own. Either the watchers look after them or another faculity member does. Either way, seeds are almost never left alone.

2006-09-20 [Estantia]: that makes sense, rght...

2006-09-20 [Talkris]: I think I'll have Jack play your watcher. Speaking of which, what kinf of person do you want? Male/female, age etc. Go to the NPC page and see what the other watchers are like and you can choose. You can even pick their name if you want, as I am running out of ideas for names heh

2006-09-21 [Estantia]: *laughs* Hm, they'd be gentle and curious, probably quite fond of lenna but not saying so. A sympathetic one would be ideal.

2006-10-15 [Talkris]: You still need to fix the parts I made notes on. And I am still not very fond of how you wrote she hides her ears to look more normal. In my opinion, she will never look normal nor blend in. Her ears will stand out and be obveious no matter how hard she tries to hide them. 

2006-10-15 [Estantia]: Even if they're hidden under their hair? yes they may realise something was wrong, but not immediately see she was different, especially not if they're not paying attention.

which other bits did you want me to change?

2006-10-15 [Talkris]: Her ears are lopped like a rabbit's. It would be difficult to hide. Besides, she lives at the institute. Everyone knows what she is. And she won't been sent into the outside world much because she is more or less useless in battle. She'd be used as a decoy, because of her different appearance, to draw out the insurgents.

2006-10-15 [Talkris]: And change what I wrote out in pink in the bio.

2006-10-15 [Estantia]: and she is also used for behavioural studies as we discussed up there...

2006-10-16 [Talkris]: Yes

2006-10-16 [Estantia]: that better?

2006-10-16 [Fizban]: Estantia, how do you want your watcher to be? as I am playing/him her.

2006-10-16 [Estantia]: Hm, they'd be gentle and curious, probably quite fond of lenna but not saying so. A sympathetic one would be ideal. that ok?

2006-10-16 [Fizban]: okay,...age, gender?

2006-10-16 [Estantia]: no idea, that's up to you...

2006-10-17 [Fizban]: no its not, its up to you ;) I play too many characters to decide how each one of them is going to be like. Talkris and I each play one anothers watchers, and each of us choose what our chars watchers would be like. Thus, now everyone chooses the specs of there watchers, and I merely play them.

2006-10-17 [Estantia]: in which case I may as well play my own watcher and let them develop...

2006-10-17 [Fizban]: >_>...Umm,...heh, lol. That doesn't work to well. We don't want anyone doing that, then its just like your playing with yourself, and I don't even want to go into that...loyl.

We want developments between characters, and players. No one wants to see a thousand posts between themselves, and themselves. if they did they would just go read a book...lols.